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The Slayer
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:49:00 -
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Just to play Devils advocate here : nowhere in that video does it show that Vees titan was inside the pos when they bumped it. |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:03:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Just to play Devils advocate here : nowhere in that video does it show that Vees titan was inside the pos when they bumped it. If it wasnt in the pos they would have simply used their DD. You never bump a titan towards a POS if it is outside.
Maybe they bumped it by accident :) Nothing in this video proves otherwise. |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:08:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:i like how you, the npc alt n3 cheerleader, conveniently ignore when your team got its **** pushed in in B-R
that must have really made you upset heh Little do you know mittens paid for that victory to buy some moral.
Goons have no morals. Perhaps you meant morale? |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:18:00 -
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Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:23:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can.
Why the **** are you trying to persuade pubbies about us being exploited? THEY DON'T CARE.
And CCP aren't going to reply on matters of policy in a thread. File a petition. God damn man. |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Why the **** are you trying to persuade pubbies about us being exploited? THEY DON'T CARE. And CCP aren't going to reply on matters of policy in a thread. File a petition. God damn man. Generally this is the only way they will respond. Just look at that godawful E1 ragenought as an example.
They reply to petitions but reimbursement requests go in the "we'll get to this next month" pile. Are you getting antsy because you haven't had a reply in x weeks? Because they will ALWAYS reply with SOMETHING eventually.
Also - Does anyone have a link to where CCP actually state that this is an exploit. Not that "bypassing pos shields" article either since its so horrendously vague, but where they SPECIFICALLY STATE that a Titan sticking out of a pos shield whilst technically "inside" it is not to be bumped? Because technically if part of the titan is outside the shields and you bump it you haven't "bypassed" this shields, in my view anyway. |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:43:00 -
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I mean again, nothing in this video shows that the titans butt wasn't poking out of the shields. If it was, and that is what was bumped, is that an exploit? |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:48:00 -
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Can we agree on three points here :
1/ Bumping a titan that is FULLY INSIDE a pos shield without a password IS an exploit
2/ Bumping a titan that is PARTIALLY OUTSIDE a pos shield i.e untargetable but ass sticking out IS NOT an exploit
3/ This video does not clearly show WHICH of these situations was true, in this case. |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:I mean again, nothing in this video shows that the titans butt wasn't poking out of the shields. If it was, and that is what was bumped, is that an exploit? Bumping a ship inside the safety of the shields if you do not have the pos password is an exploit and a bannable offence
Define "inside the safety of the shields" please? Does it have to be FULLY inside? What if part of it is sticking out? Show me where in the exploit notice this is clarified please. |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:55:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:I mean again, nothing in this video shows that the titans butt wasn't poking out of the shields. If it was, and that is what was bumped, is that an exploit? Bumping a ship inside the safety of the shields if you do not have the pos password is an exploit and a bannable offence Would you be so kind as to get a screengrab from the vid that shows when that happened? How about you as N3? meanwhile we can see where the bumping incident happened just by looking at were the ships are moving.
All we can see is that it occured on the edge of the shields, not on which side, not whether the titan was partially exposed or not.
Man I think you are the best Baltec you know this but you seriously sound like a 9/11 truther here. THE MISSILE POD IS RIGHT THERE ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE PLANE WHY CAN'T YOU ALL SEE IT! |
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The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:10:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:If it was inside the shield and bumped and CCP eventually rule it was use of an exploit, then as usual with reimbursement requests, isn't there a way for CCP to speed up their customer service. Sometimes it's pretty poor.
Spitballing numbers here but there are what, 500k subscribers? if half of a percent of them file a reimbursement request once a week (not very unlikely) thats 2500 petitions asking for reimbursement ALONE, on top of the however many thousand others they receive. I don't imagine reimbursement requests are a 2 minute job for GMs either.
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The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:13:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So tell us all how titans with a top speed of less than 100m/s bumped eachother to 1000-2000m/s if they wernt cynoed on top of eachother. Then tell us why they bumped vees titan through the pos before they used their DD rather than use them right away.
If the titan was not fully inside the pos shield when they cynoed in they would have bumped the part of the titan that was outside the shield. This would have caused the effect seen in the video. Or :aliens: |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:]It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.
But can we agree that nowhere in the video is this made clear? Because thats my main point of contention here. |

The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:35:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.
I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right? Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said" Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild.
But can we agree that nowhere in the video that was posted can this be clearly seen? |
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